The man you can free from jail seems strangely honourable, saying he has shamed his companions and wants to begin anew. If Kematu really was an assassin, why paralyse her at the end of the quest - why not just stab her and be done with it?
He also mentions justice, and taking her into custody, and implies that Saadia will face a trial back in Hammerfell rather than swift execution. All this points to him and his warriors being enforcers rather than assassins. Kematu's opening line - "We can avoid any more bloodshed. Not a lot of room to hide out in. I tried. I would not reccommend Kematu if you are looking for a lair, especially if you are trying to fit three or more people in there.
After Kematu paralyzes Saadia, if you kill Saadia, Kematu will say "All that work and you just kill her, you ruined everything" If he was only an assasin then killing her would be no problem. She said she was forced into hiding after an attempt on her life for speaking out against the Aldmeri Dominion, but Hammerfell successfully held them off until they eventually withdrew their forces. Why would Reguard "mercenaries" from Hammerfell want to assassinate someone who spoke out against the force they've been fighting against for years?
I doubt they would take the Thalmor as clients, so who would even hire them to begin with? You can help us with that, and make sure no one else gets hurt. She sent you after us, and has no reason to think that you'd do anything other than that. Convince her that we'll be coming for her, and she needs to leave. Lead her to the stables outside Whiterun.
We'll be waiting to take her into custody. I'll gladly share a portion of the bounty in return for your efforts in seeing proper justice done. We'll be waiting for you at the stables.
It will be good to finally be able to return home. When you have lied to Saadia and lured her to Whiterun Stables for a safe escape on horseback, she will find no horse but instead Kematu who will greet her appropriately:.
Kematu : "We meet at last, my dear lady. What have you done? You didn't really expect to manipulate people forever, did you? Your luck had to run out sometime. After the quick conversation, Kematu will cast a Paralyze spell on Saadia. When you approach Kematu after this, he will say: "Now, we'll take our friend here back to Hammerfell, where she will pay the price for her treason. Once she gets there, it's not up to me to decide what's done with her.
And as for you, I owe you a portion of the reward, don't I? Well, here you go. Saadia will eventually regain her ability to move, needless to say, she's pretty p'oed at you. Kill her and steal her stuff. Complete the quest up to the point where you get to choose to "speak to" or "kill Kematu" in Swindler's Den. Opt to speak and agree to bring Saadia to the stables. Back at Whiterun, convince Saadia to leave as above.
Run to the stables ahead of Saadia. Kematu will be waiting. Rush up to him and kill him there without all his bodyguards to protect him Search his body for booty, g, some armour and his two scimitars. Speak to Saadia who thanks you and gives you the g reward she offered earler. Although not explicitly mentioned, judging by the White-Gold Concordat I doubt that the treaty of Stros M'kai left the Aldmeri Dominion empty handed which might explain Kematu saying that the resistance in Hammerfell is still ongoing.
I doubt that 21 year is enough to clear up all the bad blood between the altmer and the redguards especially with the redguards being involved in gibbeting one of their more famous generals. Even though the Aldmeri Dominion could have control over part of Hammerfell after the treaty, I doubt that they would be able to employ Alik'r who were part of the Hammerfell military during the war just a few decades ago.
Since Aldmeri Dominion justiciar parties are freely roaming throughout Skyrim prisoners in tow , hiring a third party to do the same job seems questionable. It makes sense that Alik'r warriors are turned away everywhere because they are seen as a military unit of Hammerfell which is no longer part of the empire, having a non-empire military unit march through a city could be seen as potentially dangerous, provocative and bearing heavy implications politically.
Kematu asks you to meet him in Rorikstead. Rorik himself is an old war dog who fought in the Great War. Since he himself has most likely fought alongside redguards from Hammerfell, he might have allowed them to stay in his town as fellow veterans of war. I doubt that Rorik having fought against the Aldmeri Dominion would let them stay in his town if he had any suspicions about them making deals with the Thalmor. The game doesn't tell us who is right here, so we're stuck with the dilemma people face in real life: we have to make the best choice with the information we have.
Ultimately, my decision is to side against the Alik'r note that is not the same thing as siding with Saadia :. All of the hard evidence is against the Alik'r acting in an acceptable or legitimate fashion, with only Kematu's honeyed words suggesting otherwise.
Furthermore, they have already been instructed to cease their activities. As Thane of Whiterun, it is the dragonborn's duty to eliminate the Alik'r for their continued activities against Whiterun hold. There is no way to verify one or the other as it currently stands in the game..
But here is my take on it for judging the character. So based on that, I usually go with Saadia if I am being a relatively 'good' person Okay, here's the facts: Whiterun kicked out Kematu's boys and imprisoned one of their members. In addition one of the bandits at the beginning of the cave say he doesn't like the Alik'r around, while his friend says something like don't complain unless you want a knife in the back.
That's pretty compelling evidence against them in my book. Then, after you slaughter them, Kematu tries his hand at smooth talking, and constantly calls Saadia a liar. Anyone that bases their point solely on another person being a liar, well that's just very dodgy straight off the bat. As Slade said here, her urn is in Whiterun, if you side with Kematu, meaning that while she might be taken back alive, she gets an execution at some point.
And as stated, the Thalmor don't have the right to just kidnap people in Skyrim, they would have to hire someone else to capture her. This is why I believe Saadia. So to break it down, Kematu's Alik'r are mercenaries that made 2 groups feel threatened, they were most likely hired by the Thalmor to capture Saadia and bring her back, and Kematu lies to you out of desperation in the cave, after you've destroyed his forces.
Side with the Alik'r and Saadia will be executed. I'm going with Saadia, she's not hanging out in a damn cave, even that is pretty friggin suspicious! I thought this was pretty black and white at first, and sided with Kematu, but as someone previously stated, you find Saadia's burial urn in the hall of the dead in Whiterun. She was supposed to be taken back alive for a trial. One thing that also bothered me was that to find out where Kematu is, you have to visit the Whiterun prison to talk to a captured Alik'r.
He never really tells you why he was captured, he just says he has shamed the Alik'r for being captured, they are supposed to be "the best of the best" he says. Best at what? Wishing I hadn't turned her over, but oh well, I don't know if I could have beaten that many Alik'r warriors anyway. Just looking at what they were packing - they had curved swords. Yeah, I'm on Saadia's side, the other thing that made me want to believe her is that if she helped the Aldmeri Dominion she could be fine under their protection, they're pretty freaking strong that and the fact she was a noble and became a tavern wench to live in hiding rather than staying a noble gives some credibility to her defense.
Kematu just threatens you with his band of assassins and hopes you'll lead him to her because he knows that you know where she is at that point. I'll say Kematu is the one to trust. He didn't kill her but she wants you to kill them. Makes sense to me. That she is guilty of something. When Kematu came to Whiterun in search for her, he didn't use force or made a scene. I was going to side with the Lovely Saadia, sure she brings out a knife, wouldn't you if you knew people were hunting you? Plus I tend to side with the smaller party in almost all cases.
No way would somebody slyly murder somebody and then just give her name freely and also pay for her remains to be put in an urn If she was executed as a traitor, her noble? Sign up to join this community. The best answers are voted up and rise to the top.
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