Unlike all of the time jumps that fans experienced prior to this one, when Goku returns to the screen as a young adult, he is drawn considerably differently than he was before. This Goku has grown up, and looks more like the protagonist fans know and love today than the kid they had been following up to the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai.
Though a year does technically pass after Raditz is defeated and Prince Vegeta lands on Earth, Goku spent this time training with Kaio in the afterlife rather than aging on Earth. This is just the first example of Goku aging inconsistently due to being deceased. The Cell arc begins with Goku meeting Future Trunks. When he arrives, Trunks quickly dispatches Frieza and warns Goku of the forthcoming Android Apocalypse.
By the time Android 17 and 18 begin their assault three years later, Goku is 29 years old. Due to the time he spent training with Kaio, Goku lives with this discrepancy for the rest of his life. This chamber manipulates time so that one day on the outside lasts a whole year on the inside. Goku uses this time dilation to cram a whole year's worth of training into one day, but it also has the added effect of making Goku even older than his peers.
In order to prop Gohan up as the protagonist, Akira Toriyama has Goku sacrifice his life to stop Cell. This did offer Gohan a bit of breathing room when being compared to his father, but it also messed up Goku's age a second time by giving him another opportunity to train with Kaio. When Goku finally returns to Earth after 7 years of training with King Kai, he is technically still 30 years old, despite the fact that his brain has clocked 38 years by this point in the story.
The year-old martial artist meets Beerus out in space to stop him from destroying Earth. Dragon Ball later retconned Goku being 11 years old, with the explanation being that he had trouble counting when asked his age at the start of the Pilaf saga.
In the same year, he engages in a search for the Dragon Balls that brings him and his allies into heated conflicts with the Red Ribbon Army, General Blue, and Mercenary Tao. It was also during this time that he met the prophetic Fortuneteller Baba. As the years pass in the Dragon Ball canon, Goku keeps himself busy with his training and his adventures. When Goku is 15, he enters the 22nd World Martial Arts Tournament and loses in a memorable showdown with Tien who would later go to be a member of the Z-Warriors.
Following his fight with Tien, the teenage Goku goes up against his deadliest adversary yet: Demon King Piccolo. Three years later, a visibly older Goku fights Chi-Chi in the 23rd World Martial Arts Tournament, with the two's obvious attraction to each other ending with the pair becoming engaged. Afterward, the year-old Saiyan encounters the reincarnation of Demon King Piccolo, and is barely able to defeat him in battle. Goku has no idea, of course, that his latest enemy will soon become one of his closest allies.
After dying in the battle with Raditz , one year passes before he is finally wished back with the Dragon Balls. Following a slow recovery, Goku heads off to planet Namek to help Gohan, Krillin, and Bulma survive a battle with the villain who destroyed his planet: Frieza. Post by GokuRules » Mon May 25, am Kamiccolo9 wrote: They are as much gods as any of the other deities in the series.
Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon May 25, am GokuRules wrote: Kamiccolo9 wrote: They are as much gods as any of the other deities in the series. Post by GokuRules » Mon May 25, am Herms wrote: Just to reiterate what Kamiccolo9 said, but "Guardian of Earth" is merely something the Funi dub made up because at the time they weren't comfortable using the word "God".
Thankfully they've improved a bit in that department since then, which is why they're not trying to pass off Beerus as the "Guardian of Destruction". Apart from Funi's quirks, there's nothing in the series distinguishing between the divine status of Beerus, Kaio, and that green idiot.
They're all equally gods: kami is simply the Japanese word for "god", and the green guy, Kaio, and Beerus are all referred to as kami in Japanese hence BoG's Japanese title being Kami to Kami , "God and God". The only difference with the green one is that he's introduced as just plain "God" before it's eventually clarified that he's only the God of Earth and there's loads of other gods out there.
The new idea put forward in BoG and RoF that gods' ki can't be sensed like normal people can be tricky to reconcile with what's come before, but it's no different than the new depiction of Hell, Gohan becoming a Super Saiyan again, or numerous other things like that.
There's absolutely nothing in the series suggesting that the old green one or Dende for that matter are "just" Namekians rather than true gods in the wacky DB sense of the term. Post by GokuRules » Mon May 25, am Kamiccolo9 wrote: GokuRules wrote: Kamiccolo9 wrote: They are as much gods as any of the other deities in the series.
Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon May 25, am GokuRules wrote: Herms wrote: Just to reiterate what Kamiccolo9 said, but "Guardian of Earth" is merely something the Funi dub made up because at the time they weren't comfortable using the word "God".
Goku was surprised that he wasent able to sense godly ki and king kai had to explain to him that he cant sense the presence of godly ki's which shows that he never knew that that there were some gods whos ki couldn't be sensed.
Post by fadeddreams5 » Mon May 25, am I feel we're delving into semantics here. Fine, Kami is "God. They all have god ki yes, I know this is a fan term and a certain form of control over the universe Goku was offered this. Kami does not. You can argue that no one ever sensed his powers, but every one can sense Dende, who holds the same exact position. Also, Kami wasn't the original Kami either; he's merely a namekian who replaced a previous guardian I'll still use that term because he IS technically a guardian , just as Dende replaced him.
Finally, Piccolo fused with him, yet still possesses regular ki.
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